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{\an8}RYAN COOGLER:
<i>We brought something for you guys today.</i>

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You guys are gonna be the first
audience to see...

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<i>the trailer for</i>
Black Panther: Wakanda Forever.

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WOMAN: Oh, my God.
MAN: Wow!

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WOMAN: <i>No woman, no cry</i>

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<i>No woman, no cry...</i>

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{\an8}Hey. What are you doing?

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{\an8}-MAN: Checking you out.
-No, no, there's no...

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{\an8}There's no behind the scenes.

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There are no, you're spoiling everything.

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{\an8}COOGLER: <i>Chad is no longer</i>
<i>with us, physically.</i>

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{\an8}COOGLER: <i>But his spirit, his passion,</i>
<i>his genius, his pride and his culture,</i>

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<i>and the impact</i>
<i>that he made on this industry</i>

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<i>will be felt forever.</i>

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<i>Standing here with y'all,</i>

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<i>I promise you</i>
<i>I can feel his hand on me right now.</i>

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MAN: <i>Rolling.</i>

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{\an8}All right.

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{\an8}There is a lot of grief
and pain in this film,

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that resonates in a way that sadly
is connected to a reality.

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Chad, of course,
the understanding of what it meant

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to really show
a world like this, it came from him,

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like, him and John Kani,

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who played his father,
who is an iconic South African actor.

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You know, they came together
during <i>Captain America</i> and said,

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you know, let's put Xhosa
in this film right here and now.

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They set that precedent

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that said, you know,
we're gonna use this very beautiful

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and specific African language,
and it will become the Wakandan language.

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That set the precedent
for the world of Wakanda.

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LUPITA NYONG'O:
<i>The first</i> Black Panther <i>film</i>

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{\an8}<i>so much of Africa was being celebrated,</i>
<i>rather than exploited, you know?</i>

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{\an8}Which is something we're more used to.

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And it was giving credit
where credit was due

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and people were
so excited to see themselves.

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<i>And there was an embracing of culture,</i>
<i>of ethnicity.</i>

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There was just like, a reminder
that we all come from very rich histories.

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-My King!
-Stop it, stop it.

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WINSTON DUKE: <i>While shooting</i>
<i>the first</i> Black Panther <i>movie,</i>

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<i>we became more than</i>
<i>just actors and collaborators.</i>

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{\an8}We really became friends
along the way.

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<i>The entire cast.</i>

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<i>We became very, very close</i>

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and we all suffered an incredible loss
when we lost Chadwick.

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-You have to keep working.
-My goodness.

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{\an8}-Bad news, you have to keep working.
-Goodness.

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{\an8}Oh, man.

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{\an8}I mean, you don't
get past a loss like this.

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<i>It's something</i>
<i>you learn how to live with, I think.</i>

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<i>For me, it was about realizing</i>
<i>how blessed and lucky I was</i>

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<i>to have had the opportunity</i>
<i>to work with Chadwick before he passed.</i>

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<i>He wrote a statement saying</i>

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<i>playing T'Challa</i>
<i>was the honor of his life.</i>

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<i>I was moved by knowing</i>
<i>our time together meant something to him</i>

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<i>because it definitely
meant something to me.</i>

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<i>And it was kinda, I was like,</i>
<i>"We gotta keep going.</i>

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"We gotta find a way to do it with
the people who he cared so much about."

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A sense like...

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COOGLER: Yeah, I think,
I think how I see this is...

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Yeah.

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You don't use
combustion technology in practice.

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-Yeah.
-You understand it.

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<i>It was an interesting exercise for me</i>

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<i>'cause it wasn't</i>
<i>my first time making a sequel.</i>

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Because I had done that with <i>Creed</i> before,

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which was like a spiritual sequel
and like a proper sequel

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to the <i>Rocky</i> films and...

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<i>But I never like,</i>
<i>made a sequel to something that I made.</i>

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I mean, if it stays on their head,

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just one rotation,
I think, will be enough.

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Yeah, it keeps them in...

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-It focuses, just not that fast.
-WOMAN: Yeah.

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Like, half that speed, I guess.

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One of the questions
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when we were
in the early Blue Skies phase,

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<i>what is a</i> Black Panther <i>movie?</i>
<i>Like, what is...</i>

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<i>Like, we know what</i> Black Panther <i>is,</i>

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<i>but what makes it</i>
<i>a</i> Black Panther <i>movie?</i>

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<i>If we're to do another,</i>
<i>would it fit into the world?</i>

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How would audiences recognize it?

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We mourn the loss of our king.

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<i>But do not think for a second</i>
<i>that Wakanda has lost her ability...</i>

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to protect our resources.

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COOGLER: Cut. Nice work.

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MAN: Cutting.
COOGLER: Hey, guys, stop real quick.

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MAN: Yes, sir.

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I just wanna say thanks
to everybody for a helluva first day.

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Shot a beautiful scene.

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It means a lot to be back at work.

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Specially on this one.

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We gotta honor our good,
good friend and collaborator.

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Fellow artist.

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And it feels like
we off to an amazing start.

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I wanna say thank you
to you guys for today,

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thanks in advance for
the other 90-some-odd days we got to go.

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Just a big thank you,
thank you to you guys.

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LETITIA WRIGHT:
<i>The themes are pretty strong here.</i>

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{\an8}You see the themes of family,

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{\an8}of protection, of love, of care.

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<i>All in one place and I think</i>
<i>that's beautiful for us to explore</i>

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<i>'cause many are feeling that</i>

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<i>especially with</i>
<i>the years that we've just had.</i>

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<i>You know, so many lost.</i>

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We can use this film to show people like,

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"Hey, we feel
what you're feeling, you know,

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"we can connect to that, we can relate."

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And hopefully that gives people an avenue

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to express how they feel
and just come to terms with that,

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so there's so much
that's happening in this movie.

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<i>It's beautiful, really.</i>

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For me, Wakanda is a symbol of home.

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It's a symbol of belonging.

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{\an8}It's a symbol of community.

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{\an8}<i>And the identity of community</i>

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{\an8}<i>and how we hold on</i>
<i>to each other to move forward.</i>

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And now, in the second film,
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<i>to the world of Wakanda,</i>
<i>that's been fun.</i>

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<i>For those of us from Wakanda to be like,</i>

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"This is what this neighborhood
looks like, that's dope," you know.

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And to learn more
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HANNAH BEACHLER:
<i>These are ginormous sets.</i>

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<i>I've been very excited</i>
<i>about building everything.</i>

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{\an8}We've got Little Rivertown,

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{\an8}which wasn't seen last time.

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<i>Based on the River Tribe</i>
<i>and their color is green.</i>

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<i>We wanted to bring that in,</i>

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<i>but we also wanted</i>
<i>to bring in some other beautiful colors</i>

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{\an8}<i>that you would see in textiles.</i>

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{\an8}<i>So there's a real big variety</i>
<i>in the color usage this time</i>

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<i>that I'm super excited about.</i>

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<i>You also get to see a little bit more</i>
<i>of our capital city, Golden City.</i>

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<i>Think of Golden City like Manhattan,</i>

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{\an8}<i>where you have the culmination of all</i>
<i>the different districts in that one place.</i>

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{\an8}<i>So there's a lot of different tribes</i>

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{\an8}that live in Golden City
as it's their capital.

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<i>The only tribe you won't find</i>
<i>living in Golden City is Jabari.</i>

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{\an8}They are separate
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{\an8}<i>so they live in this sort of,</i>
<i>southern snowy mountain tops.</i>

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{\an8}<i>North Triangle is where</i>
<i>Bashenga first put his sword down</i>

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{\an8}so it is oldest place
in all of Wakanda, including the capital.

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{\an8}<i>It is also where Okoye lives.</i>

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{\an8}<i>And a lot of the design in North Triangle</i>
<i>is based on Danai Gurira,</i>

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<i>our fabulous actress as Okoye,</i>

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<i>her actual country of Zimbabwe,</i>

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<i>and she is from</i>
<i>the tribe of the Shona people.</i>

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It's where Okoye feels
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<i>because of what it represents.</i>

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I was losing my mind
by some of these portrayals,

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<i>of various cultures, including my own.</i>

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I grew up in a country that had recently

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{\an8}come out of colonization
when I moved there.

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{\an8}<i>And so, to understand</i>
<i>a nation like Wakanda existing,</i>

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<i>I understood how special it was.</i>

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<i>A nation that left you with that question,</i>

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<i>"Who would we have been as a continent</i>
<i>had we never been colonized?"</i>

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{\an8}RUTH CARTER:
<i>Wakanda itself is such a concept</i>

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{\an8}that we really wanted
to come back to it and groom it.

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You see technology that's upgraded,
you see new armor.

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When we do finally see this costume
as Midnight Angel,

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it connects directly to the comics.

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<i>The Midnight Angels in the comics</i>
<i>are tones of blue.</i>

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<i>So, the design ideas</i>
<i>came directly from the comics</i>

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<i>and also connect</i>
<i>directly with the actor and the story.</i>

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{\an8}Ruth will exhaust every possibility

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{\an8}in terms of her research,

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{\an8}in terms of connecting
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to build this world of Wakanda.

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<i>To walk into the warehouse,</i>

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<i>and just see row</i>
<i>after row after row, rack after rack,</i>

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<i>table after table of jewelry and fabrics</i>

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and costumes that she sourced
from Africa, from around the world.

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It's just absolutely, absolutely amazing.

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It has always been our policy...

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to never trade vibranium
under any circumstance.

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<i>Not because of the dangerous potential</i>
<i>of vibranium...</i>

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but because of
the dangerous potential of you.

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I know so much more who I am
when I put the costumes on.

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<i>The embroidery,</i>
<i>the jewelry within the fabric,</i>

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<i>the capes, the headdress,</i>

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<i>she just took it up a notch</i>

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and I felt so regal
in each and every costume.

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Ruth Carter obviously
brought tears to everybody's eyes

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with like, the beautiful costumes.

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I always say like,
Ryan's the smartest man alive

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being surrounded by
a lot of women.

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<i>Women department heads</i>

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<i>and every woman on this show,</i>
<i>there's a strength that...</i>

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<i>you don't often see,</i>
<i>there's a level of excellence.</i>

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CARTER: <i>We had to develop</i>
<i>a brand new military faction</i>

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<i>that wasn't seen</i>
<i>in the first film, which was the navy.</i>

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<i>I wanted to get</i>
<i>a color story first and foremost.</i>

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We know that the River Tribe is green.

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<i>So we started with a palette of green.</i>

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<i>You can combine</i>
<i>all different types of green together</i>

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<i>and it just seems</i>
<i>to work together really nicely.</i>

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<i>Also, the element</i>
<i>of bringing in a tribal reference.</i>

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We really wanted to give them
a sense of Wakandan royalty as well

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so we brought in the gold
and the silver as an accent color.

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<i>And they have hats</i>
<i>like all military factions of Wakanda,</i>

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but it's different
and unique to them at the same time.

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This better not be a part of your ritual.

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It isn't.

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{\an8}I remember talking about Namor

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{\an8}being in <i>Black Panther 2</i>
while writing the first movie.

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<i>He's always been at the top of mind.</i>

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<i>In the comics,</i>
<i>the two worlds have a great rivalry.</i>

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{\an8}Namor and Atlantis are

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<i>some of the oldest characters</i>
<i>in Marvel publishing.</i>

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<i>Namor was one</i>
<i>of the first superheroes, frankly.</i>

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But, for us
to introduce Namor into the MCU,

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<i>there needed to be something</i>
<i>that grounded it in a reality</i>

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<i>that felt like, as tactile as hopefully,</i>
<i>the world of Wakanda feels.</i>

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<i>And in talking with Ryan, figuring out</i>
<i>how to bring this character to life,</i>

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<i>one thing we thought</i>
<i>was really interesting</i>

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was viewing Namor through the lens
of Mesoamerican culture.

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In preparation, we knew the film would be

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about Wakandans
coming in contact with another place.

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Mesoamerica was something
I was thinking about a bit.

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<i>And upon research,</i>

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<i>it became more clear</i>
<i>that the people of the Yucatán</i>

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<i>made a ton of sense.</i>

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<i>We would see images of them</i>
<i>drawing themselves with blue paint on,</i>

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<i>that was the color that we wanted</i>
<i>from Marvel comics that inspired the film</i>

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<i>and the more we got into it,</i>
<i>we realized it was meant to be.</i>

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JOEL HARLOW: This is our background area
for doing the Talokanil.

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{\an8}These are the gills.
They were grown digitally

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{\an8}in the computer, sculpted,
then grown, we grew the mold.

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And then mass produced that mold
so we could knock out a lot of 'em.

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{\an8}These also have to go in water,
so they've to be very durable.

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<i>Now he's gonna go over to get painted.</i>
<i>His whole body will be painted blue.</i>

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<i>And then he'll come back to me</i>
<i>and I'll finish him up.</i>

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<i>He also goes to hair, and costumes.</i>

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Each warrior has their own fish or mammal

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that's signature to their look.

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<i>Attuma has the hammerhead shark.</i>

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<i>The other warriors,</i>
<i>some of their costumes use</i>

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<i>what appear to be shells and stones</i>
<i>and whale skin, fish skin.</i>

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They have
their traditional Maya earspools.

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<i>The costume really does feel like</i>

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<i>this is something</i>
<i>that has been tooled over time.</i>

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The way we went about making
the first movie was with as much respect

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for the cultures we were pulling from
and for the audience.

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<i>So we wanted to do the same thing</i>

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<i>for the cultures</i>
<i>we were reflecting in this.</i>

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{\an8}<i>Black Panther 1</i> for us was a big impact.

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<i>Everybody can identify with that story.</i>

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We suffer because of the racism,
and social cancers.

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Black Panther, <i>it was like,</i>

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<i>"Oh, my God, there is nothing</i>
<i>wrong in us."</i>

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There is nothing bad,
you know, we are not broken.

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So, it was, important
and now it's our turn.

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COLE: <i>The Mayans are...</i>

253
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There's so much mystery
around their civilization.

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COOGLER: Action.

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COLE: <i>There's so much</i>
<i>fertile terrain there to explore,</i>

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<i>their artwork</i>
<i>and their advanced agriculture.</i>

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<i>All of these things</i>
<i>that they accomplished,</i>

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it just was a perfect palette
for us to kind of, delve into.

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COOGLER: <i>With Namor, we knew early on,</i>

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I was like,
"We gotta find out how he got this name."

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'Cause in the comics,
the explanation for his name was simple.

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<i>His story goes,</i>
<i>they took "Roman" and spelt it backwards.</i>

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<i>That's not gonna work</i>
<i>with what we're doing here.</i>

264
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<i>I had the thought,</i>
<i>somebody said something to him in Spanish</i>

265
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<i>and kind of curses him in a way.</i>

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That's how he got his name.

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MAN: On my mark in three, two, one.

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COOGLER: <i>When our collaborators</i>
<i>came up with the idea</i>

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<i>of</i> sin amor <i>which means no love.</i>

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{\an8}<i>His enemies were calling him that.</i>
<i>That's how we came up with it.</i>

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The child without love.

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Namor's costumes
reflect the tradition that he honors

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<i>and a lot of researching went into that.</i>

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<i>His shoulder mantle</i>
<i>and headpiece that he wears on the throne</i>

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<i>is curated from</i>
<i>post-Yucatec Mayan culture.</i>

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<i>It's the snake and we used a lot of kelp</i>

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<i>and things to make the whole headdress</i>
<i>and handwove his cape.</i>

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<i>but we kept it pure</i>
<i>to what he looked like in the comics.</i>

279
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{\an8}The elements for me,

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{\an8}sort of the makeup effects
elements, are his ears,

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<i>I did a couple of iterations of those,</i>

282
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<i>and then we did a septum piercing on him.</i>

283
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He's got earrings
that the costume department provided,

284
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<i>but finding his look</i>
<i>on our actor was pretty easy actually.</i>

285
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<i>He embodies so much</i>
<i>of what I had read Namor to be,</i>

286
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<i>that you don't want to cover him up</i>
<i>with fake eyebrows and stuff like that,</i>

287
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<i>I mean, he's got enough eyebrow there</i>
<i>that I can give him a slight point,</i>

288
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<i>but he's got</i>
<i>great ears for ear prosthetics,</i>

289
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which was, you know, that was a gift.

290
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That was a bonus.

291
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The fish man.

292
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DUKE: <i>What's great about Tenoch is that...</i>

293
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like any great actor,
in my opinion, he loves to play.

294
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He enters the scene with an open mind

295
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and ready to play and try things.

296
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COOGLER: Action.

297
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He carries a lot of gravitas
which the character has,

298
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<i>but he has a lot</i>
<i>of softness and potential warmth</i>

299
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<i>which creates a really great dynamic.</i>

300
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For me, to be part of this world,
with all the respect, it's a dream.

301
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-Cut.
-Clean. Good job.

302
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HUERTA: <i>I never imagined</i>
<i>to be here playing this character.</i>

303
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<i>And I have the best allies</i>
<i>around me including Mabel.</i>

304
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MABEL CADENA: <i>It was amazing experience,</i>

305
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<i>I have to learn Maya for the movie</i>

306
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{\an8}because Namora
only speak Maya in the movie.

307
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That was interesting challenge.
It's really hard.

308
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CADENA: <i>It's really difficult</i>
<i>but because we have a lot of time,</i>

309
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<i>a lot of months with our coach</i>

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for pronunciation
and for memorize the line.

311
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<i>But the big goal was on set</i>

312
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<i>because sometimes Ryan,</i>
<i>he needed change the lines,</i>

313
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<i>and that was a big challenge</i>

314
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<i>because you need</i>
<i>learn at the moment a new line.</i>

315
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<i>It's a really, really achievement for us</i>

316
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in that moment, learn a new word in Maya.

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{\an8}<i>Líik'ik Talokan!</i>

318
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<i>Líik'ik Talokan!</i>

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BEACHLER: <i>When you look at Talokan,</i>

320
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<i>we kind of took inspiration</i>
<i>from the temples that you see,</i>

321
00:21:09,226 --> 00:21:10,602
<i>we worked with an archaeologist</i>

322
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<i>and he's written books in Mayan</i>
<i>and he really helped us along</i>

323
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<i>with how to get to where</i>
<i>we needed to be as far as their history.</i>

324
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{\an8}<i>But also, being reminded that...</i>

325
00:21:20,237 --> 00:21:23,240
Namor never actually
lived during those times, right?

326
00:21:23,323 --> 00:21:25,784
He never lived in Maya
during its glory years

327
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'cause he wasn't born
until they went into the water.

328
00:21:28,036 --> 00:21:30,706
<i>So everything that's there,</i>
<i>is based on memory.</i>

329
00:21:30,789 --> 00:21:33,250
So that's why
things are just a little askewed

330
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because he's remembering
what he's been told

331
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<i>and then what he saw</i>
<i>before everything went into ruins.</i>

332
00:21:40,299 --> 00:21:42,134
This is what's underneath El Castillo.

333
00:21:42,217 --> 00:21:43,719
-Right.
-Which is K'uk'ulkan.

334
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COOGLER: How did y'all model the...

335
00:21:45,429 --> 00:21:46,930
-Stalactites is up, right?
-Up.

336
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-Mites is down.
-Mites is down.

337
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There's over 700 on both sets.

338
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-Jesus.
-Yeah, they hand carved each one

339
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in about three weeks.

340
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-COOGLER: Amazing.
-And then, this is our...

341
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sister cenote to the visitors quarters.

342
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Those are hand carved.

343
00:22:07,784 --> 00:22:09,953
-COOGLER: The big...
-It took like six weeks

344
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to hand carve those ten-foot steles.

345
00:22:12,331 --> 00:22:16,335
And the faces are like,
kind of, after Tenoch's face.

346
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-COOGLER: Yeah, wow.
-Yeah.

347
00:22:18,462 --> 00:22:19,463
Mmm-hmm.

348
00:22:21,340 --> 00:22:22,382
And then, this.

349
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Everything's from Tulum.

350
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COOGLER: Yeah, this one...

351
00:22:28,221 --> 00:22:29,556
This one's my favorite one.

352
00:22:29,931 --> 00:22:31,016
That's my favorite one,

353
00:22:31,099 --> 00:22:32,934
-the panther and Namor.
-Yeah.

354
00:22:33,435 --> 00:22:35,312
In the style of Bonampak.

355
00:22:35,854 --> 00:22:38,482
And the people are really brown.

356
00:22:39,441 --> 00:22:40,484
Which is awesome.

357
00:22:41,193 --> 00:22:42,944
COOGLER: It's pretty incredible, man.

358
00:22:43,153 --> 00:22:45,364
-So much detail in all this stuff.
-BEACHLER: Yeah.

359
00:22:46,365 --> 00:22:48,700
All this is crazy.
How do they plant all this stuff?

360
00:22:48,784 --> 00:22:50,285
They plant this in real dirt?

361
00:22:50,369 --> 00:22:51,828
Yes, so this whole...

362
00:22:51,912 --> 00:22:53,538
-It's all living plants?
-Yes.

363
00:22:53,955 --> 00:22:57,501
And this whole stage is built on dirt.

364
00:22:57,584 --> 00:23:00,420
<i>We cover the ground covering</i>
<i>and then bring in the rocks.</i>

365
00:23:00,504 --> 00:23:03,590
<i>You know, this is deeper</i>
<i>than any of the other tanks,</i>

366
00:23:04,007 --> 00:23:05,133
<i>so they can dive.</i>

367
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WOMAN: <i>Take it away,</i>
<i>five, four, three, two, one.</i>

368
00:23:15,185 --> 00:23:16,353
MAN: <i>Actors go underwater.</i>

369
00:23:17,521 --> 00:23:20,232
COOGLER: <i>I want to go</i>
<i>where the story requires us to go.</i>

370
00:23:21,983 --> 00:23:25,570
There was this quote about how little
we know about the depths of the ocean.

371
00:23:26,321 --> 00:23:30,075
<i>And how, the deeper you get down there,</i>
<i>the more alien things look and seem.</i>

372
00:23:33,495 --> 00:23:35,872
And so for us,
we were talking a lot about this film

373
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being like,
a first contact movie, in a way.

374
00:23:56,226 --> 00:23:58,228
<i>We were talking</i>
<i>about Namor as kinda being...</i>

375
00:23:58,311 --> 00:24:01,648
a little bit of a spaceman,
in a deep ocean as outer space.

376
00:24:01,731 --> 00:24:04,985
MAN: <i>All set, three, two, one, action.</i>

377
00:24:05,068 --> 00:24:08,113
COOGLER: <i>At that point, the movie</i>
<i>took on this specific identity</i>

378
00:24:08,196 --> 00:24:10,574
<i>of having these</i>
<i>water scenes that are super tactile.</i>

379
00:24:10,657 --> 00:24:13,577
MAN: <i>Three, two, one. Turn.</i>

380
00:24:13,660 --> 00:24:16,955
COOGLER: <i>And I knew we needed</i>
<i>to do it for real, as much as we could.</i>

381
00:24:22,919 --> 00:24:23,920
<i>Hello.</i>

382
00:24:24,004 --> 00:24:27,841
MAN: <i>Cut. And surface.</i>

383
00:24:29,259 --> 00:24:32,679
COOGLER: <i>And it made more sense when</i>
<i>things happened that slid our schedule.</i>

384
00:24:32,762 --> 00:24:35,515
We noticed, we're not gonna
have a ton of time for...

385
00:24:35,599 --> 00:24:37,726
to VFX every single water shot,

386
00:24:37,809 --> 00:24:40,312
so it would be great
to get in there and do it.

387
00:24:44,524 --> 00:24:47,986
{\an8}For me, I love
doing everything I can in camera.

388
00:24:50,614 --> 00:24:52,365
<i>And it's really all about lighting.</i>

389
00:24:53,158 --> 00:24:56,369
We had to take into consideration
a lot of things because...

390
00:24:57,245 --> 00:24:59,039
<i>you know, this city</i>

391
00:24:59,122 --> 00:25:02,292
<i>is so deep under water</i>
<i>that there shouldn't be any light.</i>

392
00:25:04,044 --> 00:25:06,505
A lot of what
we're used to seeing, underwater worlds,

393
00:25:06,588 --> 00:25:10,342
people breathing under water,
sometimes these examples can be

394
00:25:11,009 --> 00:25:14,054
<i>over-lit, that look a little fake, right?</i>

395
00:25:14,137 --> 00:25:15,472
<i>Like they're not underwater.</i>

396
00:25:15,847 --> 00:25:17,474
<i>So we had in our tank</i>

397
00:25:17,557 --> 00:25:20,936
<i>very soft light above pushing through.</i>

398
00:25:21,019 --> 00:25:22,979
MAN: <i>All right. Camera, set.</i>

399
00:25:23,063 --> 00:25:26,691
ARKAPAW: <i>So that's the believability</i>
<i>factor if you're underwater.</i>

400
00:25:26,775 --> 00:25:29,486
<i>It's like we have this soft,</i>
<i>ambient light that feels real,</i>

401
00:25:29,569 --> 00:25:31,571
<i>not very punchy, not reflective.</i>

402
00:25:32,989 --> 00:25:33,990
MAN: <i>Go.</i>

403
00:25:34,866 --> 00:25:37,869
{\an8}Everything is against you under water.

404
00:25:37,953 --> 00:25:41,831
<i>Safety's against you, time's against you,</i>
<i>communication's against you.</i>

405
00:25:41,915 --> 00:25:44,042
Moviemaking is hard on dry land,

406
00:25:45,502 --> 00:25:46,753
<i>and you get under water,</i>

407
00:25:46,836 --> 00:25:50,840
<i>the difficulty factor</i>
<i>gets amplified by a factor of a 100.</i>

408
00:25:50,924 --> 00:25:52,551
WOMAN: <i>Great, and charts.</i>

409
00:25:58,515 --> 00:26:00,016
DENISON: <i>One issue we encountered was</i>

410
00:26:00,100 --> 00:26:02,435
<i>a lot of the cast</i>
<i>wasn't comfortable swimming.</i>

411
00:26:02,519 --> 00:26:04,980
MAN 1: <i>Five seconds, roll camera.</i>

412
00:26:05,063 --> 00:26:06,106
MAN 2: <i>Rolling.</i>

413
00:26:06,940 --> 00:26:08,358
WRIGHT: <i>I struggled with it.</i>

414
00:26:08,441 --> 00:26:12,153
<i>Ryan called me and he was like,</i>
<i>"Tish, can you swim?"</i>

415
00:26:12,237 --> 00:26:13,238
I was like...

416
00:26:13,947 --> 00:26:16,992
"Sir, sir, I'm in the lab.

417
00:26:17,075 --> 00:26:20,579
"What more do you need
from me coming out of that lab?"

418
00:26:20,662 --> 00:26:22,914
<i>So I had to learn to swim very quickly,</i>

419
00:26:22,998 --> 00:26:25,458
<i>and everybody</i>
<i>was in a corner learning to swim.</i>

420
00:26:26,751 --> 00:26:28,378
Now I've swam...

421
00:26:29,212 --> 00:26:32,048
in a mediocre manner since I was little.

422
00:26:34,217 --> 00:26:37,137
<i>I used to swim like a puppy,</i>
<i>you know what I mean?</i>

423
00:26:37,220 --> 00:26:39,472
<i>Not anything that anyone wants to film.</i>

424
00:26:40,348 --> 00:26:42,475
<i>I had to become friends with the water.</i>

425
00:26:44,019 --> 00:26:47,063
<i>You have to be so present</i>
<i>when you're dealing with water.</i>

426
00:26:47,772 --> 00:26:48,898
WOMAN: <i>Thirty seconds.</i>

427
00:26:49,316 --> 00:26:50,400
DENISON: Five purges.

428
00:26:58,283 --> 00:26:59,784
NYONG'O: <i>You cannot afford stage fright.</i>

429
00:26:59,868 --> 00:27:02,912
WOMAN: <i>Three, two, one.</i>

430
00:27:03,246 --> 00:27:04,414
MAN: <i>Actors going down.</i>

431
00:27:08,710 --> 00:27:10,754
NYONG'O: <i>You can't afford</i>
<i>adrenaline, really.</i>

432
00:27:12,172 --> 00:27:14,007
NYONG'O: <i>You can't afford to hurry.</i>

433
00:27:14,090 --> 00:27:17,594
You actually have to slow
all the way down and focus.

434
00:27:19,095 --> 00:27:22,223
<i>And it was such a great lesson</i>
<i>for performance in general.</i>

435
00:27:24,601 --> 00:27:25,894
COOGLER: The look back's great.

436
00:27:25,977 --> 00:27:27,729
Right. I said... I told...

437
00:27:27,812 --> 00:27:31,107
-How they're coming after...
-COOGLER: Yeah, yeah, totally.

438
00:27:31,191 --> 00:27:32,400
Looks good.

439
00:27:32,484 --> 00:27:35,737
DENISON: <i>Throughout the film, we don't</i>
<i>really see anybody on actual scuba.</i>

440
00:27:35,820 --> 00:27:37,197
<i>Majority of it is free-diving.</i>

441
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,491
<i>You look at Tenoch's character,</i>
<i>Mabel's character,</i>

442
00:27:39,574 --> 00:27:42,577
<i>they have to look, not only competent,</i>
<i>but very comfortable.</i>

443
00:27:44,245 --> 00:27:45,955
<i>Like they were born under water.</i>

444
00:27:46,665 --> 00:27:47,957
We've to get them to a point

445
00:27:48,041 --> 00:27:50,085
where they're comfortable
holding their breath,

446
00:27:50,168 --> 00:27:52,128
<i>they're not thinking</i>
<i>about holding their breath,</i>

447
00:27:52,212 --> 00:27:53,296
<i>but thinking about acting.</i>

448
00:27:54,255 --> 00:27:55,423
<i>And being in the scene.</i>

449
00:27:56,299 --> 00:28:00,679
The free-diving
is so fantastic and peaceful,

450
00:28:00,762 --> 00:28:04,140
when you are down in the tank,
everything is silent

451
00:28:04,224 --> 00:28:10,438
<i>and it's like, active meditation in a way,</i>
<i>and I can hold my breath for five minutes.</i>

452
00:28:10,522 --> 00:28:11,606
<i>That's my record.</i>

453
00:28:18,530 --> 00:28:21,533
DENISON: <i>Mabel is the single best</i>
<i>free dive student I've ever had</i>

454
00:28:21,616 --> 00:28:23,702
<i>and I've taught lots how to breath-hold.</i>

455
00:28:23,785 --> 00:28:27,622
We could push her to 10-minute range
if we had another week with her.

456
00:28:28,665 --> 00:28:31,042
<i>What's interesting</i>
<i>about Namor and the Talokanil</i>

457
00:28:31,126 --> 00:28:34,045
is they're actually
kind of, super soldiers in water

458
00:28:34,129 --> 00:28:36,131
so they're going
to want to move through water

459
00:28:36,214 --> 00:28:38,341
in a way that
the human body probably can't.

460
00:28:40,593 --> 00:28:42,387
<i>There needs to be an interesting marriage</i>

461
00:28:42,470 --> 00:28:44,597
<i>with the stuff</i>
<i>we shoot underwater, wet for wet.</i>

462
00:28:44,681 --> 00:28:45,682
MAN: <i>Cut.</i>

463
00:28:45,765 --> 00:28:48,143
<i>And some stuff</i>
<i>we shoot out of water, dry for wet.</i>

464
00:28:48,685 --> 00:28:52,897
<i>Because they're stronger and faster</i>
<i>swimmers than any human on the planet.</i>

465
00:28:55,275 --> 00:28:58,194
So there was a lot of figuring out to do

466
00:28:58,278 --> 00:29:01,197
<i>between the different ways</i>
<i>that Wakandans move through water</i>

467
00:29:01,906 --> 00:29:03,491
<i>versus the Talokanil.</i>

468
00:29:03,575 --> 00:29:07,203
<i>There's a lot of kind of,</i>
<i>math and geometry being done constantly</i>

469
00:29:07,287 --> 00:29:11,416
<i>to make sure that those two different</i>
<i>groups of people are moving differently.</i>

470
00:29:11,833 --> 00:29:14,335
<i>But there's an internal logic</i>
<i>to how everybody moves.</i>

471
00:29:14,419 --> 00:29:16,004
ARKAPAW: <i>When we did</i>
<i>our dry for wet,</i>

472
00:29:16,087 --> 00:29:19,799
<i>we were always trying to keep true</i>
<i>to how light works in the tank.</i>

473
00:29:19,883 --> 00:29:23,428
Since a lot of wet for wet stuff
was shot first, we had a reference.

474
00:29:24,512 --> 00:29:28,933
So, trying to make it look more real
is kind of making sure that

475
00:29:29,434 --> 00:29:32,061
<i>the rules, the scientific rules of light,</i>

476
00:29:32,145 --> 00:29:34,856
<i>stay true to when</i>
<i>you're shooting it underwater.</i>

477
00:29:34,939 --> 00:29:37,025
You want these to maybe push a little bit?

478
00:29:37,108 --> 00:29:38,526
COOGLER: Yes, I do.

479
00:29:38,610 --> 00:29:40,153
-Kind of step out...
-Okay, man.

480
00:29:40,236 --> 00:29:43,948
One of the most difficult elements
of this film was the exosuits.

481
00:29:44,032 --> 00:29:47,160
<i>It's a submarine that you wear,</i>
<i>with the arms and legs.</i>

482
00:29:47,243 --> 00:29:49,579
<i>They make 'em</i>
<i>for utility work under water.</i>

483
00:29:49,662 --> 00:29:51,998
<i>Each suit is about</i>
<i>a million and a half dollars.</i>

484
00:29:52,707 --> 00:29:54,834
<i>People don't realize that was wet for wet.</i>

485
00:29:55,376 --> 00:29:57,003
<i>Those were the actual suits.</i>

486
00:29:57,337 --> 00:30:02,133
And using the exosuits in the tank
was an incredible opportunity to learn.

487
00:30:02,425 --> 00:30:04,552
<i>But it was a massive challenge.</i>

488
00:30:04,636 --> 00:30:07,889
MAN: <i>If we can try to see past it</i>
<i>through the vibranium detector.</i>

489
00:30:09,349 --> 00:30:12,435
DENISON: <i>We had to all kind of,</i>
<i>become experts in them overnight.</i>

490
00:30:12,769 --> 00:30:15,021
Worst thing that
could happen is the suit breaks,

491
00:30:15,104 --> 00:30:18,608
they go, "No, the scariest thing
is a fire inside of the suit."

492
00:30:18,691 --> 00:30:20,068
It's pretty frightening.

493
00:30:20,443 --> 00:30:21,694
We don't want that.

494
00:30:21,778 --> 00:30:24,572
<i>So we had to develop,</i>
<i>just like we do for all stunts,</i>

495
00:30:24,656 --> 00:30:26,741
<i>a safety plan for how the suits work.</i>

496
00:30:28,576 --> 00:30:30,787
<i>But it was pretty phenomenal,</i>
<i>the end result.</i>

497
00:30:31,287 --> 00:30:33,081
This is practical moviemaking
at its finest,

498
00:30:33,164 --> 00:30:36,334
which, in the age of VFX,
is a very cool thing to see, right?

499
00:30:37,919 --> 00:30:39,087
MAN: <i>Alex, you ready?</i>

500
00:30:39,587 --> 00:30:41,047
<i>All right, here we go. Ready?</i>

501
00:30:41,422 --> 00:30:43,132
<i>And, action.</i>

502
00:30:49,681 --> 00:30:51,182
<i>-You okay?</i>
-I moved my head.

503
00:30:52,141 --> 00:30:55,395
{\an8}I was intimidated. I'm not gonna lie.

504
00:30:57,230 --> 00:31:01,484
<i>You know, I've seen Danai</i>
<i>on TV for years, you know.</i>

505
00:31:01,943 --> 00:31:02,986
The Walking Dead.

506
00:31:03,987 --> 00:31:05,905
<i>So, meeting her, it was like...</i>

507
00:31:06,948 --> 00:31:09,951
"Hi, how you doing, I'm Alex."

508
00:31:11,035 --> 00:31:13,204
<i>But she's been great, you know.</i>

509
00:31:13,788 --> 00:31:15,915
<i>She's the one that I worked with the most.</i>

510
00:31:16,207 --> 00:31:19,961
<i>And she's been the most amazing person</i>

511
00:31:20,044 --> 00:31:21,379
<i>in the sense of...</i>

512
00:31:21,462 --> 00:31:23,673
<i>This is my first time in the MCU</i>

513
00:31:23,756 --> 00:31:26,467
<i>or doing something this big</i>
<i>and that fight on the bridge...</i>

514
00:31:29,137 --> 00:31:30,263
<i>You get goosebumps.</i>

515
00:31:31,639 --> 00:31:34,475
<i>When I first started</i>
<i>and I actually saw the video</i>

516
00:31:34,559 --> 00:31:36,686
the stunt guys made for our fight,

517
00:31:36,769 --> 00:31:38,021
I was intimidated.

518
00:31:40,189 --> 00:31:42,650
<i>I was like, "Man, I look so good."</i>

519
00:31:42,734 --> 00:31:44,235
Why should I mess it up?

520
00:31:47,071 --> 00:31:51,784
So it was a lot of training
for a long time, for a lot of weeks.

521
00:31:55,038 --> 00:31:57,373
When I started,
it was like I had two left feet.

522
00:31:57,707 --> 00:32:00,585
<i>I couldn't move</i>
<i>as well as they did, but through time,</i>

523
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,795
I... I got it.

524
00:32:02,879 --> 00:32:06,507
<i>You know,</i>
<i>I started dancing, as they call it.</i>

525
00:32:17,226 --> 00:32:19,854
{\an8}Something that was very important

526
00:32:19,938 --> 00:32:24,025
{\an8}was to highlight what Danai
could actually do as Okoye.

527
00:32:25,276 --> 00:32:28,905
Because I think it's important
to capture her on screen, you know?

528
00:32:28,988 --> 00:32:31,991
We could always go to a double,
it's not... That's easy, right?

529
00:32:32,492 --> 00:32:34,202
But Danai put in a lot of work.

530
00:32:35,036 --> 00:32:39,499
<i>And I think actors are different</i>
<i>than your average stunt performer</i>

531
00:32:39,582 --> 00:32:42,335
because a stunt performer
will try to definitely...

532
00:32:42,669 --> 00:32:46,047
Not all of them,
but they will try to do everything

533
00:32:46,422 --> 00:32:48,216
physically with more grit,

534
00:32:48,299 --> 00:32:50,635
but an actor thinks
about the emotion behind it.

535
00:32:50,718 --> 00:32:52,428
COOGLER: Cut. cut.
MAN: Cut it, cut it.

536
00:32:52,762 --> 00:32:54,055
Let's do one more, I'm sorry.

537
00:32:54,138 --> 00:32:55,348
MAN: Reset.

538
00:32:55,431 --> 00:32:57,725
Don't you think like she should get
right next to camera

539
00:32:57,809 --> 00:32:59,394
-So I can come in faster?
-COOGLER: Yeah.

540
00:33:01,604 --> 00:33:04,399
TONEY: <i>There's more weight,</i>
<i>and so when that translates,</i>

541
00:33:05,024 --> 00:33:06,859
you get something very special.

542
00:33:12,073 --> 00:33:15,284
GURIRA: <i>In Okoye's mind,</i>
<i>there's no one who's gonna top her</i>

543
00:33:15,785 --> 00:33:17,078
<i>in regards to combat.</i>

544
00:33:18,997 --> 00:33:20,498
<i>Doesn't matter what their size is,</i>

545
00:33:20,581 --> 00:33:23,543
it doesn't matter
what their musculature is.

546
00:33:23,626 --> 00:33:26,129
It's like I'm too skilled to be taken down

547
00:33:26,212 --> 00:33:28,589
<i>by y'all who just came off</i>
<i>of a killer whale's back.</i>

548
00:33:28,965 --> 00:33:31,134
Cute, but let me just get to work.

549
00:33:32,301 --> 00:33:34,220
So that's how she thinks, you know.

550
00:33:35,930 --> 00:33:37,473
Take another step closer...

551
00:33:39,017 --> 00:33:40,518
and I will kill you all.

552
00:33:44,564 --> 00:33:47,191
I really wanted
to make Attuma just bigger

553
00:33:47,275 --> 00:33:52,155
than everybody else physically,
to create that intimidating size.

554
00:33:53,406 --> 00:33:56,242
So, yeah, a lot of working out
and a lot of eating,

555
00:33:56,325 --> 00:33:59,871
I was eating like, every ten seconds.

556
00:33:59,954 --> 00:34:03,416
You know, I was consuming
about 6,000 calories a day

557
00:34:03,499 --> 00:34:04,667
<i>and I gained 30 pounds.</i>

558
00:34:06,377 --> 00:34:09,881
They're gonna see Attuma be large,
look intimidating, but be swift.

559
00:34:13,801 --> 00:34:15,261
Danai is gonna be different.

560
00:34:19,724 --> 00:34:23,811
She has to be extremely tactical
about how she attacks,

561
00:34:24,103 --> 00:34:26,856
because this guy is extremely powerful.

562
00:34:26,939 --> 00:34:28,858
So you're gonna see her calculating.

563
00:34:31,778 --> 00:34:32,862
<i>You're gonna see her...</i>

564
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:35,656
<i>rarely on the ropes,</i>

565
00:34:35,740 --> 00:34:38,117
<i>but you're gonna see</i>
<i>a little vulnerability here.</i>

566
00:34:39,327 --> 00:34:41,454
She's never faced anyone like this before.

567
00:34:48,419 --> 00:34:52,340
With Okoye, what I was deeply attracted to

568
00:34:52,423 --> 00:34:58,262
was, from the jump, Ryan was very clear
about how he wanted her to be.

569
00:35:00,264 --> 00:35:02,642
And then, kinda going like this.

570
00:35:03,726 --> 00:35:06,312
GURIRA: <i>And the way,</i>
<i>the idea of her being a general</i>

571
00:35:06,395 --> 00:35:08,397
<i>the idea of the Dora Milaje</i>

572
00:35:08,481 --> 00:35:11,692
and then,
the traditionalism of who she was

573
00:35:11,776 --> 00:35:16,072
was definitely something that
really helped me anchor her.

574
00:35:16,614 --> 00:35:21,828
<i>'Cause her connection to her country</i>
<i>was so, so passionate.</i>

575
00:35:21,911 --> 00:35:24,747
<i>This is a woman</i>
<i>who actually really enjoys her life.</i>

576
00:35:24,831 --> 00:35:28,501
<i>And she loves</i>
<i>being a Wakandan more than anything.</i>

577
00:35:28,584 --> 00:35:32,046
<i>But you know, when you're being told</i>
<i>you can't be a soldier anymore,</i>

578
00:35:32,130 --> 00:35:34,549
<i>and that's all you've been</i>
<i>that's all you know,</i>

579
00:35:34,632 --> 00:35:38,636
<i>that's definitely... a dark corridor.</i>

580
00:35:39,679 --> 00:35:41,556
<i>But that's the arc she has to take.</i>

581
00:35:42,431 --> 00:35:45,226
She never thought she'd
do anything but die for Wakanda,

582
00:35:45,309 --> 00:35:48,020
you know, in that uniform.

583
00:35:48,729 --> 00:35:52,191
But when that's taken off,
now who are you?

584
00:35:52,275 --> 00:35:54,819
<i>And that's what she has to find</i>

585
00:35:54,902 --> 00:35:58,781
<i>and that's what she... ultimately finds</i>
<i>with the Midnight Angels.</i>

586
00:36:00,408 --> 00:36:03,494
I'm excited about
the cultures celebrated in this film,

587
00:36:03,578 --> 00:36:07,748
<i>I'm excited about the new characters</i>
<i>that will be introduced to the world.</i>

588
00:36:07,832 --> 00:36:11,627
<i>Especially to see</i>
<i>how Dominique's portrayal of Riri</i>

589
00:36:11,711 --> 00:36:13,546
<i>come alive, it's so beautiful because...</i>

590
00:36:14,338 --> 00:36:15,798
<i>Riri is now in Africa</i>

591
00:36:15,882 --> 00:36:19,093
<i>and Riri is now</i>
<i>a reflection of T'Challa's decision.</i>

592
00:36:19,177 --> 00:36:21,929
She is a result
of T'Challa's decision in saying

593
00:36:22,013 --> 00:36:25,516
{\an8}<i>we're gonna open our borders,</i>
<i>we're gonna help.</i>

594
00:36:26,184 --> 00:36:27,810
<i>We must find a way...</i>

595
00:36:28,519 --> 00:36:30,354
<i>to look after one another...</i>

596
00:36:31,022 --> 00:36:35,151
<i>as if we were one, single tribe.</i>

597
00:36:35,234 --> 00:36:36,986
When we were making the first film,

598
00:36:37,069 --> 00:36:39,280
<i>one of the things</i>
<i>that we kept talking about</i>

599
00:36:39,363 --> 00:36:42,200
<i>is that, yes,</i>
<i>Wakandan is extremely African, right?</i>

600
00:36:42,700 --> 00:36:45,036
{\an8}<i>But, in terms of their mentality,</i>

601
00:36:45,119 --> 00:36:47,914
{\an8}<i>because they are,</i>
<i>"on top of the world,"</i>

602
00:36:47,997 --> 00:36:49,916
<i>they are only concerned with themselves.</i>

603
00:36:49,999 --> 00:36:52,251
And in a sense,
that's a reflection of America.

604
00:36:52,335 --> 00:36:57,548
I believe I speak for
all the member states here...

605
00:36:59,133 --> 00:37:04,013
when I say that I am deeply
disappointed in Wakanda's failure.

606
00:37:04,513 --> 00:37:08,935
So, in our narrative, Wakanda is that.

607
00:37:09,018 --> 00:37:12,063
<i>And what Riri does for us</i>

608
00:37:12,146 --> 00:37:16,150
<i>is open up Wakanda</i>
<i>for us to be able to relate</i>

609
00:37:16,234 --> 00:37:21,155
<i>and for other people</i>
<i>to be able to see other perspectives.</i>

610
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,407
Riri, I love all that she represents

611
00:37:23,491 --> 00:37:26,369
<i>and Dominique herself</i>
<i>is extremely impressive.</i>

612
00:37:26,452 --> 00:37:27,912
<i>She's the daughter of immigrants,</i>

613
00:37:27,995 --> 00:37:30,248
<i>first child to go to college</i>
<i>in her whole family,</i>

614
00:37:30,331 --> 00:37:33,918
<i>she just graduated</i>
<i>from Cornell herself in the sciences,</i>

615
00:37:34,001 --> 00:37:36,545
<i>and she's playing this role,</i>
<i>I think that's so cool,</i>

616
00:37:36,629 --> 00:37:37,797
<i>like, it gets me teary-eyed.</i>

617
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:38,965
Hey.

618
00:37:39,048 --> 00:37:41,676
The poetry of it is
that's actually who's playing it.

619
00:37:41,759 --> 00:37:42,969
You forgot to Venmo me.

620
00:37:43,344 --> 00:37:45,554
It slipped my mind.
It's eight hundred, right?

621
00:37:46,681 --> 00:37:49,600
Eight hundred was yesterday's price.
It's a band today.

622
00:37:50,309 --> 00:37:52,103
My name is Dominique Thorne.

623
00:37:52,186 --> 00:37:55,481
{\an8}Dominique auditioned
for Shuri for the first movie.

624
00:37:56,274 --> 00:37:58,693
The particles absorb the kinetic energy

625
00:37:58,776 --> 00:38:01,237
and hold it in place for redistribution.

626
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,864
And we really liked her
and we thought she was smart

627
00:38:03,948 --> 00:38:06,284
<i>and she has a great presence</i>
<i>and she is funny</i>

628
00:38:06,367 --> 00:38:09,245
<i>and she has a lot of attitude</i>
<i>but we remembered that audition.</i>

629
00:38:09,328 --> 00:38:12,540
Old tech. Functional, but old.

630
00:38:13,165 --> 00:38:17,420
Oh! People are shooting at me.
Wait, guys, let me put on my helmet.

631
00:38:17,503 --> 00:38:22,008
And so when we decided to put
Riri Williams into <i>Wakanda Forever,</i>

632
00:38:22,091 --> 00:38:23,759
<i>she was the first and only call.</i>

633
00:38:26,053 --> 00:38:30,099
DUKE: <i>This is her foray</i>
<i>into coming into something</i>

634
00:38:30,182 --> 00:38:34,228
that felt really established
and like, we all had our own relationships

635
00:38:34,312 --> 00:38:39,066
and she came in strong,
holding her own, very prepared,

636
00:38:39,150 --> 00:38:43,446
<i>and just willing to go toe to toe</i>
<i>with everyone and that's her character.</i>

637
00:38:45,698 --> 00:38:46,991
Yo, we got him.

638
00:38:47,074 --> 00:38:51,912
{\an8}It felt like stepping into a family,
stepping into someone's home.

639
00:38:52,204 --> 00:38:54,457
Please show Miss Williams
where she's working.

640
00:38:54,540 --> 00:38:55,666
WOMAN: Right this way.

641
00:38:55,958 --> 00:38:59,545
<i>And wanting to enter in</i>
<i>with the utmost respect</i>

642
00:38:59,628 --> 00:39:04,842
and reverence for what it is
and what they've done.

643
00:39:04,925 --> 00:39:09,555
<i>But it was also exciting</i>
<i>because sort of, Riri's presence there</i>

644
00:39:09,638 --> 00:39:12,475
<i>along with these new characters</i>
<i>meant that there was more</i>

645
00:39:13,267 --> 00:39:15,728
{\an8}<i>to be found, more to explore.</i>

646
00:39:15,811 --> 00:39:19,231
{\an8}It was very, very fun and beautiful

647
00:39:19,315 --> 00:39:24,028
to sort of, go on that ride
with the folks who know the place best.

648
00:39:24,904 --> 00:39:29,992
CARTER: <i>You see that in the story,</i>
<i>Riri builds this machine</i>

649
00:39:30,076 --> 00:39:32,370
{\an8}that Shuri is very impressed by,

650
00:39:32,453 --> 00:39:35,915
{\an8}and it flies and it shoots
and it does all kinds of things.

651
00:39:37,333 --> 00:39:40,127
MAN: <i>Three, two, one and blast.</i>

652
00:39:43,339 --> 00:39:45,174
GRIOT: <i>Oxygen, 0%.</i>

653
00:39:49,011 --> 00:39:52,681
CARTER: <i>And it's also</i>
<i>a very difficult costume to craft.</i>

654
00:39:52,765 --> 00:39:55,976
<i>It's actually, you know, put together</i>

655
00:39:56,060 --> 00:40:00,815
<i>through some mold work but also,</i>
<i>you know, there's metal work there</i>

656
00:40:00,898 --> 00:40:05,945
<i>and it's also a costume</i>
<i>of all kinds of mechanical parts.</i>

657
00:40:06,529 --> 00:40:10,991
And you can imagine the plethora of pieces
that would go into a costume like that.

658
00:40:11,534 --> 00:40:14,537
<i>They were all discussed</i>
<i>over many multiple meetings.</i>

659
00:40:15,287 --> 00:40:18,791
<i>What these cannons do,</i>
<i>what her armpieces do,</i>

660
00:40:18,874 --> 00:40:20,626
<i>how she moves about.</i>

661
00:40:20,709 --> 00:40:24,630
<i>There were so many elements</i>
<i>to that costume that had to be sussed out.</i>

662
00:40:24,713 --> 00:40:26,757
It's such a smart build because

663
00:40:26,841 --> 00:40:31,011
<i>as heavy and as bulky as it is,</i>
<i>all of my joints are free</i>

664
00:40:31,095 --> 00:40:34,598
<i>and so I could step, I could walk,</i>
<i>I could wave, I could squat.</i>

665
00:40:34,682 --> 00:40:39,437
<i>I could do all the things,</i>
<i>but just with this extra weight on.</i>

666
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,565
I think it's probably
most comparable to football gear,

667
00:40:42,648 --> 00:40:45,484
<i>is what a lot of folks</i>
<i>were comparing it to.</i>

668
00:40:45,568 --> 00:40:50,072
<i>And I definitely do feel like,</i>
<i>"Yeah, like, I'm ready for anything now,"</i>

669
00:40:50,156 --> 00:40:52,158
you know,
which is a great feeling.

670
00:40:52,533 --> 00:40:55,995
MAN: On my call, in three,
two, one, action.

671
00:40:58,456 --> 00:40:59,623
MAN: Cut it. Cut, cut.

672
00:41:00,291 --> 00:41:01,292
You all right?

673
00:41:02,084 --> 00:41:04,295
But the Mark II is where we get to see

674
00:41:04,378 --> 00:41:09,717
<i>that sort of, Wakandan flair</i>
<i>sort of, rub off on Riri.</i>

675
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,635
<i>It has a much sleeker design.</i>

676
00:41:12,970 --> 00:41:15,681
There were a lot
of discussions about how closely

677
00:41:15,764 --> 00:41:19,059
<i>it would relate to the Iron Man costume.</i>

678
00:41:19,685 --> 00:41:23,355
<i>And Ryan wanted it to be Chicago Bulls red</i>

679
00:41:23,439 --> 00:41:25,858
<i>and we moved the heart to the side,</i>

680
00:41:26,275 --> 00:41:29,945
<i>but only half</i>
<i>of the costume actually was built.</i>

681
00:41:30,029 --> 00:41:33,407
<i>We built a maquette, which is like a doll,</i>
<i>which was the full size</i>

682
00:41:33,491 --> 00:41:36,535
that they're able
to use with visual effects.

683
00:41:37,328 --> 00:41:40,748
<i>There was a kind of movie magic</i>
<i>that went on with that costume</i>

684
00:41:40,831 --> 00:41:46,170
<i>because it had to perform, you know,</i>
<i>such fantastical things in the air,</i>

685
00:41:46,253 --> 00:41:48,964
<i>and spin and dive and all kinds of stuff</i>

686
00:41:49,048 --> 00:41:52,092
<i>that she would not have</i>
<i>been able to do in a full costume.</i>

687
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,970
{\an8}Old tech, functional but old.

688
00:41:55,054 --> 00:41:58,474
{\an8}People are shooting at me.
Wait, let me put on my helmet.

689
00:41:58,557 --> 00:42:00,809
For now, tell it to go on.

690
00:42:00,893 --> 00:42:02,895
Once we realized
what the movie was gonna be,

691
00:42:02,978 --> 00:42:05,606
this version of the movie was gonna be,

692
00:42:06,607 --> 00:42:09,777
I realized that it was
a unique opportunity for me as a creative

693
00:42:09,902 --> 00:42:14,114
<i>to have a protagonist just go on</i>
<i>like, a transformative arc.</i>

694
00:42:15,533 --> 00:42:16,534
I'm not my brother.

695
00:42:18,494 --> 00:42:20,037
Namor will beg me for mercy...

696
00:42:21,288 --> 00:42:23,207
and I will stand and watch as he dies.

697
00:42:23,832 --> 00:42:27,127
You know, I was thankful
that Letitia's such an amazing actress,

698
00:42:27,253 --> 00:42:29,922
'cause this is not
the role that she auditioned for.

699
00:42:30,506 --> 00:42:33,050
We were really blessed
in terms of her being that versatile

700
00:42:33,133 --> 00:42:36,387
<i>that she could make you believe</i>
<i>that she was that younger sister</i>

701
00:42:36,470 --> 00:42:39,932
<i>who could have fun, you know,</i>
<i>with T'Challa and rib him,</i>

702
00:42:40,140 --> 00:42:42,935
<i>and feel youthful and like</i>
<i>she was full of love and light.</i>

703
00:42:43,018 --> 00:42:46,105
<i>And then become this character,</i>
<i>which is a totally different thing.</i>

704
00:42:47,565 --> 00:42:49,775
Was the herb not destroyed?

705
00:42:49,858 --> 00:42:52,695
Yes, I recreated it.

706
00:42:54,530 --> 00:42:55,531
With science?

707
00:42:56,448 --> 00:42:57,449
Yes.

708
00:42:57,533 --> 00:42:58,784
MOORE: <i>For us as storytellers,</i>

709
00:42:58,867 --> 00:43:04,456
I think Ramonda's passing was important
in bringing Shuri to her lowest,

710
00:43:04,540 --> 00:43:08,836
<i>and really breaking down this girl</i>
<i>whose spirit seemed unbreakable,</i>

711
00:43:08,919 --> 00:43:11,755
<i>to see what the breaking point might be.</i>

712
00:43:12,423 --> 00:43:15,050
I just buried the last person
who truly knew me.

713
00:43:18,846 --> 00:43:20,306
My heart was buried with her.

714
00:43:20,973 --> 00:43:22,891
It was not a decision we made lightly

715
00:43:22,975 --> 00:43:26,645
because Ramonda's a fantastic character
and Angela Basset is a talented actress

716
00:43:27,271 --> 00:43:28,939
<i>and a part of the family.</i>

717
00:43:29,356 --> 00:43:30,357
Shuri.

718
00:43:31,025 --> 00:43:32,318
Show him...

719
00:43:32,818 --> 00:43:34,069
who you are.

720
00:43:35,821 --> 00:43:36,864
COOGLER: Okay, cut.

721
00:43:36,947 --> 00:43:37,948
MAN: Cut it.

722
00:43:42,786 --> 00:43:44,371
WRIGHT: <i>I'll be very honest.</i>

723
00:43:44,455 --> 00:43:49,877
When I read that Ramonda
was going to die by the hands of Namor,

724
00:43:50,669 --> 00:43:52,087
I was very upset.

725
00:43:52,171 --> 00:43:54,798
I think I almost cried
on the phone to Ryan.

726
00:43:54,882 --> 00:43:58,093
I was kinda like,
"What are you doing? What is this?"

727
00:43:58,677 --> 00:44:00,679
I'm so sorry about your mom.

728
00:44:00,763 --> 00:44:02,056
BASSETT: <i>I guess it's...</i>

729
00:44:04,475 --> 00:44:09,647
When you take an audience on a journey,
it's like you gotta grab them by the heart

730
00:44:09,730 --> 00:44:13,442
and rip it out of them,
I suppose, but I was...

731
00:44:13,525 --> 00:44:15,194
It took me a moment,

732
00:44:15,277 --> 00:44:18,280
<i>I had to process it,</i>
<i>I had to get over it.</i>

733
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,451
For Ramonda, here's a woman
who has been girded by loss,

734
00:44:22,534 --> 00:44:26,330
who has become a very,
very successful queen of Wakanda,

735
00:44:26,413 --> 00:44:29,458
<i>and has done a great job in defending</i>
<i>her nation from all comers.</i>

736
00:44:29,625 --> 00:44:33,337
<i>And yet, her daughter is suffering from</i>
<i>depression over the loss of her brother</i>

737
00:44:33,504 --> 00:44:36,465
<i>and it's Ramonda's job to try</i>
<i>and pull Shuri out of this place</i>

738
00:44:36,548 --> 00:44:40,344
and let her see that there is the
potential to move forward through loss.

739
00:44:40,511 --> 00:44:43,389
When that illness
took your brother from us...

740
00:44:43,472 --> 00:44:47,476
I had to lead a wounded nation
and a broken world.

741
00:44:48,060 --> 00:44:50,270
But I still took time in the bush.

742
00:44:51,397 --> 00:44:55,401
My most precious resource
is my daughter at this point.

743
00:44:56,777 --> 00:45:00,280
You can imagine
with her husband and her son gone,

744
00:45:00,572 --> 00:45:04,827
that her embrace is that much,
you know, tighter around Shuri.

745
00:45:04,910 --> 00:45:07,830
<i>Physically, emotionally,</i>
<i>mentally, spiritually.</i>

746
00:45:07,913 --> 00:45:10,082
<i>And that's what a mother does,</i>

747
00:45:10,165 --> 00:45:12,710
<i>she does sacrifice</i>
<i>her life for her kids, you know,</i>

748
00:45:12,793 --> 00:45:15,587
and being a mother,
I know this all too well,

749
00:45:15,671 --> 00:45:17,297
<i>we'll do anything for them.</i>

750
00:45:17,965 --> 00:45:19,383
WRIGHT: <i>As we were doing it,</i>

751
00:45:20,092 --> 00:45:23,846
I realized, it did inspire Shuri's arc.

752
00:45:23,929 --> 00:45:29,309
<i>It did really inspire...</i>
<i>that thirst for vengeance</i>

753
00:45:29,393 --> 00:45:33,063
<i>that you'll see when Shuri</i>
<i>takes on the Black Panther mantle.</i>

754
00:45:37,943 --> 00:45:41,405
<i>Very early on,</i>
<i>Ryan explained to me where he was at</i>

755
00:45:41,488 --> 00:45:43,699
<i>and he asked me where I was at.</i>

756
00:45:43,782 --> 00:45:48,120
And he felt really strongly
that Chadwick would want us to continue.

757
00:45:48,203 --> 00:45:53,709
<i>He slowly explained to me</i>
<i>how we can honor Chad in this film,</i>

758
00:45:53,792 --> 00:45:57,713
and how we can honor
what was created by us as a family

759
00:45:58,547 --> 00:46:01,258
<i>and I started to realize</i>
<i>what he was saying.</i>

760
00:46:01,341 --> 00:46:04,136
And it was for me,
like a bittersweet experience

761
00:46:04,219 --> 00:46:07,723
<i>because Shuri does become</i>
<i>the Black Panther in the comic books.</i>

762
00:46:07,806 --> 00:46:13,645
But like, I didn't have
my brother to pass the torch to me.

763
00:46:14,354 --> 00:46:15,481
So...

764
00:46:17,316 --> 00:46:21,153
I had to, kinda like, process that.

765
00:46:21,862 --> 00:46:26,950
<i>And once I felt at peace</i>
<i>that it was the right thing,</i>

766
00:46:27,034 --> 00:46:30,078
<i>I accepted and I said</i>
<i>to Ryan, I'll do my best.</i>

767
00:46:30,162 --> 00:46:33,749
And I made a commitment, I was like,
I'll honor God and I'll honor Chad.

768
00:46:41,089 --> 00:46:44,885
<i>When I put the panther suit on,</i>
<i>it was a surreal moment.</i>

769
00:46:44,968 --> 00:46:46,386
<i>I did feel pretty cool</i>

770
00:46:46,470 --> 00:46:51,558
and they incorporated
a few Shuri elements from the first film.

771
00:46:51,642 --> 00:46:56,063
So Shuri had gauntlets and they kind of,
incorporated those into her suit.

772
00:46:56,146 --> 00:46:58,607
{\an8}Essentially, we were working
with the design language of

773
00:46:58,690 --> 00:47:01,151
<i>silver being representative of T'Challa,</i>

774
00:47:01,235 --> 00:47:03,320
<i>gold being representative of T'Chaka,</i>

775
00:47:03,403 --> 00:47:06,114
<i>and the little bit of where</i>
<i>Killmonger's coming from.</i>

776
00:47:06,198 --> 00:47:08,826
And Shuri's design, we're essentially
taking those two elements

777
00:47:08,909 --> 00:47:09,952
<i>and combining them.</i>

778
00:47:10,035 --> 00:47:13,455
<i>So that she is taking what works</i>
<i>from each one of those methodologies</i>

779
00:47:13,539 --> 00:47:16,750
<i>and making them intertwine</i>
<i>into her Black Panther suit.</i>

780
00:47:16,875 --> 00:47:20,295
Finding her own voice with the things

781
00:47:20,712 --> 00:47:23,465
My first day in the suit,
I did feel really nervous.

782
00:47:24,091 --> 00:47:27,344
<i>I was like, am I meant</i>
<i>to walk like this, talk like this?</i>

783
00:47:27,427 --> 00:47:29,930
<i>And I just kept hearing</i>
<i>my brother saying like,</i>

784
00:47:30,013 --> 00:47:32,975
<i>"Calm down. It's cool, don't worry.</i>

785
00:47:33,058 --> 00:47:36,478
"And just keep going,
just keep walking and just be confident.

786
00:47:36,562 --> 00:47:38,063
"Just be confident."

787
00:47:42,693 --> 00:47:45,654
MAN: <i>And here it comes,</i>
<i>back at you and... Duck!</i>

788
00:47:48,824 --> 00:47:49,908
COOGLER: <i>And... duck.</i>

789
00:47:50,492 --> 00:47:52,744
<i>Nice. Nice, nice.</i>
<i>Much more like that, okay?</i>

790
00:47:53,161 --> 00:47:56,164
DENISON: <i>When you choreograph</i>
<i>a giant scene like that third act battle,</i>

791
00:47:56,248 --> 00:48:00,419
{\an8}you read the script,
you're just drinking out of the firehose.

792
00:48:00,502 --> 00:48:02,296
{\an8}How're we gonna get this action done?

793
00:48:02,379 --> 00:48:04,631
But then you start
breaking it down piece by piece.

794
00:48:04,715 --> 00:48:05,924
<i>What are the main beats?</i>

795
00:48:08,844 --> 00:48:10,053
<i>They come out of the water.</i>

796
00:48:16,393 --> 00:48:18,020
<i>They climb the side of the ship.</i>

797
00:48:19,521 --> 00:48:23,400
<i>The Dora come off and then you</i>
<i>have to just fine tune things from there.</i>

798
00:48:23,483 --> 00:48:26,862
<i>So, we had these huge days</i>
<i>like, 50 plus performers,</i>

799
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,116
<i>we've got a crane up,</i>
<i>we have warriors coming up,</i>

800
00:48:31,199 --> 00:48:33,452
<i>doing organic falls,</i>
<i>there's lines everywhere.</i>

801
00:48:33,535 --> 00:48:34,536
It gets tough.

802
00:48:34,620 --> 00:48:35,662
<i>Go.</i>

803
00:48:35,746 --> 00:48:37,915
DAVID HUGGHINS:
<i>They have to make sure they're committed.</i>

804
00:48:37,998 --> 00:48:42,419
{\an8}Once a person commits to the jump,
they've gone beyond the point of return,

805
00:48:42,502 --> 00:48:46,214
they're out there, you can release 'em
bring 'em down at whatever speed you want.

806
00:48:46,673 --> 00:48:50,218
<i>We also have to make sure</i>
<i>that in the choreographing of that scene,</i>

807
00:48:50,302 --> 00:48:51,720
<i>we gotta have people climbing up</i>

808
00:48:51,803 --> 00:48:54,848
<i>in a way that they're</i>
<i>out of the way when they're running down</i>

809
00:48:54,932 --> 00:48:57,225
<i>so they're not hit by accident.</i>

810
00:48:57,309 --> 00:48:59,019
<i>Everybody has to know where they're at.</i>

811
00:48:59,102 --> 00:49:03,148
<i>It's like a dance, everybody needs</i>
<i>to know exactly what step they're on.</i>

812
00:49:04,399 --> 00:49:07,611
Are you ready to bathe in the blood
of Wakanda's enemies?

813
00:49:13,742 --> 00:49:19,039
With some really great training,
it's just the physicality of the Jabari,

814
00:49:19,122 --> 00:49:21,959
where you get to dive
a little bit more into that.

815
00:49:24,169 --> 00:49:26,713
There will be no climbing here.

816
00:49:26,797 --> 00:49:29,341
The fight training was really incredible

817
00:49:29,424 --> 00:49:33,637
<i>and I always try to make</i>
<i>M'Baku feel like a strong man</i>

818
00:49:33,720 --> 00:49:36,890
<i>instead of like, a bodybuilder</i>
<i>or a guy that's about aesthetic.</i>

819
00:49:36,974 --> 00:49:40,894
<i>So, like, he has</i>
<i>a lot of weight culturally on his back.</i>

820
00:49:41,269 --> 00:49:42,854
<i>And he carries it with pride.</i>

821
00:49:44,398 --> 00:49:48,110
And that's a really big part
of what defines the character.

822
00:49:51,196 --> 00:49:52,322
MAN: Follow the chart.

823
00:49:58,453 --> 00:49:59,871
TONEY: <i>Shuri versus Namor.</i>

824
00:49:59,955 --> 00:50:02,541
{\an8}We put a lot into that fight.

825
00:50:12,426 --> 00:50:16,513
<i>And it's got a lot of heart and</i>
<i>there's so much weight behind this moment,</i>

826
00:50:16,596 --> 00:50:20,392
because you don't see
a lot of Shuri, you know, in action.

827
00:50:20,475 --> 00:50:23,687
So, when you do, it's gotta be impactful.

828
00:50:23,770 --> 00:50:24,771
Go!

829
00:50:25,856 --> 00:50:27,649
WRIGHT: <i>Yeah, it's a great payoff.</i>

830
00:50:27,733 --> 00:50:28,734
I'm so proud of it.

831
00:50:28,817 --> 00:50:31,445
<i>And Shuri's looking amazing,</i>
<i>Namor's looking amazing.</i>

832
00:50:34,322 --> 00:50:36,783
But something that is
very important to take into account

833
00:50:37,117 --> 00:50:38,535
was that Shuri is smart.

834
00:50:38,618 --> 00:50:41,079
<i>She uses her mind</i>
<i>before she uses her body.</i>

835
00:50:41,163 --> 00:50:45,208
There isn't a lot of flash,
there is more calculation.

836
00:50:48,754 --> 00:50:51,506
With Namor,
when it came to fighting styles,

837
00:50:51,590 --> 00:50:56,219
I pulled from not only sort of,
cultural aspects like Lucha Libre

838
00:50:56,303 --> 00:50:59,765
the sort of ball game that
they go out and play with their bodies,

839
00:50:59,848 --> 00:51:02,100
but also I pulled from Asian cultures.

840
00:51:02,476 --> 00:51:04,478
I pulled from a style called Baji

841
00:51:04,561 --> 00:51:09,024
and Baji is a style
that focusses on grounding your body

842
00:51:09,107 --> 00:51:11,109
<i>while delivering shoulder strikes,</i>

843
00:51:12,444 --> 00:51:15,197
elbow strikes,
so you're gonna see Namor do things

844
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,449
that are unorthodox,

845
00:51:17,532 --> 00:51:19,743
but effective because
he is the person he is.

846
00:51:21,870 --> 00:51:26,792
Namor is more like, yeah,
the fight is not an explosion,

847
00:51:26,875 --> 00:51:30,087
it's little by little,
you know, he's more in control.

848
00:51:31,379 --> 00:51:34,716
TONEY: <i>It was fun to play around</i>
<i>with the wings, you know,</i>

849
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:36,676
special, sort of like, quick attacks.

850
00:51:37,135 --> 00:51:38,470
<i>Or him boosting.</i>

851
00:51:40,097 --> 00:51:42,766
But also, they said,
can we rip the wings off?

852
00:51:45,018 --> 00:51:48,605
They grow back, he'll be fine,
but it gives you an opportunity

853
00:51:48,688 --> 00:51:53,193
to humanize this God-like character
and make him come to her.

854
00:51:53,276 --> 00:51:55,987
<i>And so that's</i>
<i>playing to Shuri being smart.</i>

855
00:52:09,084 --> 00:52:10,252
COOGLER: Shuri, look at me.

856
00:52:14,131 --> 00:52:15,423
See your Ma.

857
00:52:16,424 --> 00:52:17,801
Call out to her.

858
00:52:19,886 --> 00:52:21,096
Mother.

859
00:52:21,721 --> 00:52:22,848
COOGLER: It's time to show him.

860
00:52:25,642 --> 00:52:27,060
Time to show him who we are.

861
00:52:27,686 --> 00:52:28,854
Go get him.

862
00:52:33,984 --> 00:52:35,152
Go get him.

863
00:52:36,862 --> 00:52:38,071
Make him pay.

864
00:52:46,788 --> 00:52:49,249
WRIGHT: <i>For Shuri, it's kind of like</i>
<i>a coming of age moment</i>

865
00:52:49,332 --> 00:52:54,421
where she's thinking that,
processing in a way of violence.

866
00:52:54,504 --> 00:52:55,505
Wakanda forever!

867
00:53:00,177 --> 00:53:04,764
Processing in a way
of expressing her pain and her fury

868
00:53:05,473 --> 00:53:09,436
<i>towards Namor, she thinks that's gonna</i>
<i>be satisfying to her soul and it's not.</i>

869
00:53:10,270 --> 00:53:13,773
And I think that's
a beautiful way to complete that arc.

870
00:53:13,857 --> 00:53:17,861
To realize that,
wait, my brother wouldn't do this.

871
00:53:17,944 --> 00:53:19,779
<i>You know,</i>
<i>my mother wouldn't want this for me.</i>

872
00:53:19,863 --> 00:53:23,366
And she learns from that
and she becomes a woman,

873
00:53:23,450 --> 00:53:27,579
you know, we see Shuri
become a woman in her own right.

874
00:53:37,464 --> 00:53:41,593
Sometimes life imitates art
and art imitates life.

875
00:53:41,676 --> 00:53:46,681
<i>And I feel that this movie,</i>
<i>the art is imitating life.</i>

876
00:53:49,017 --> 00:53:51,895
DUKE: <i>This is a movie about loss...</i>

877
00:53:53,980 --> 00:53:57,609
and about growth,
and about pain

878
00:53:57,692 --> 00:54:01,112
<i>and the transformation</i>
<i>that happens as a result.</i>

879
00:54:02,113 --> 00:54:03,240
COOGLER: <i>More than anything,</i>

880
00:54:03,949 --> 00:54:06,451
different people
will get different things out of it.

881
00:54:07,494 --> 00:54:10,830
Hopefully you see something in it
and it speaks to you in a way that...

882
00:54:12,123 --> 00:54:14,251
deals with things that you've been

883
00:54:14,334 --> 00:54:16,544
wrestling with
consciously or subconsciously.

884
00:54:16,628 --> 00:54:19,881
Ladies and gentlemen, that's a picture
finish on Miss Angela Basset.

885
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:24,010
Ryan has such a big heart
and such a great storyteller

886
00:54:24,094 --> 00:54:28,014
<i>and within the storytelling,</i>
<i>what Ryan has done</i>

887
00:54:28,098 --> 00:54:30,642
gives lightness and joy to our sadness.

888
00:54:30,725 --> 00:54:34,229
MAN: Picture wrap of Mr. Winston Duke,
ladies and gentlemen.

889
00:54:34,312 --> 00:54:36,439
We did it, man.

890
00:54:36,523 --> 00:54:39,567
MAN: It's also a picture finish
on Ms. Lupita Nyong'o.

891
00:54:41,736 --> 00:54:45,031
COOGLER: <i>After Panther one,</i>
<i>what I was most excited about</i>

892
00:54:45,115 --> 00:54:47,617
<i>was seeing everybody</i>
<i>who I worked on the first one with,</i>

893
00:54:47,701 --> 00:54:49,286
<i>'cause we'd become like family.</i>

894
00:54:49,869 --> 00:54:51,454
<i>And then we lost Chad.</i>

895
00:54:52,914 --> 00:54:56,167
<i>And it kinda changed</i>
<i>everything for this one, you know.</i>

896
00:54:57,919 --> 00:55:02,382
<i>It just became bigger in a way</i>
<i>that was unexpected for all of us.</i>

897
00:55:03,008 --> 00:55:04,551
WRIGHT: <i>Having the support of Ryan,</i>

898
00:55:05,885 --> 00:55:10,724
he just confidently, always would say,
"Hey, Tish, like, you could do this."

899
00:55:11,141 --> 00:55:13,268
<i>And just pushing me forward each day.</i>

900
00:55:14,477 --> 00:55:16,438
<i>You gotta keep inspiring people.</i>

901
00:55:16,521 --> 00:55:19,983
And I'm praying
that that will be the result for Shuri,

902
00:55:20,066 --> 00:55:23,445
that as she's growing and she's evolving,

903
00:55:23,528 --> 00:55:25,905
<i>that later down the line we can be like,</i>

904
00:55:25,989 --> 00:55:27,657
<i>"Wow, that's a great woman,</i>

905
00:55:27,741 --> 00:55:31,453
<i>"that's a great example</i>
<i>to so many people in the world."</i>

906
00:55:32,704 --> 00:55:35,707
COOGLER: <i>From our family to yours,</i>
<i>we just wanna say thank you.</i>

907
00:55:35,790 --> 00:55:39,294
<i>Deeply. Deeply, deeply, deeply,</i>
<i>for taking care of this story,</i>

908
00:55:39,377 --> 00:55:41,212
<i>for taking care of me, taking care of us.</i>

909
00:55:42,005 --> 00:55:45,300
<i>And you guys allowed me to heal,</i>
<i>from something that was really...</i>

910
00:56:03,234 --> 00:56:06,363
<i>From something that was difficult.</i>
<i>So, thank you for that.</i>

911
00:56:06,738 --> 00:56:09,032
<i>Wakanda forever. Líik'ik Talokan.</i>

912
00:56:09,449 --> 00:56:10,700
<i>Love you guys, thank you.</i>

913
00:56:16,623 --> 00:56:20,835
I think part
of the reason you make this movie

914
00:56:20,919 --> 00:56:22,545
is it changes perspective.

915
00:56:24,422 --> 00:56:26,966
<i>People can see</i>
<i>a superhero in a different light.</i>

916
00:56:27,050 --> 00:56:30,387
A different worldview, and to be
a part of that is a special thing.


